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		<title>Idea People</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Catherine Wagley]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[L.A. Expanded: Notes from the West Coast A weekly column by Catherine Wagley In 1983, art historian T.J. Clark delivered his paper, “More on the Differences Between Comrade Greenberg and Ourselves” at the Vancouver conference, Modernism and Modernity. Clement Greenberg, the critic who named kitsch “the epitome of all that is spurious” and had a Pollock hanging in his bathroom, was in the audience. I[.....]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>L.A. Expanded: Notes from the West Coast</strong><br />
<strong> A weekly column by Catherine Wagley</strong></p>
<div id="attachment_24255" style="width: 610px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="/2012/02/idea-people/greenberg/" rel="attachment wp-att-24255"><img class="size-medium wp-image-24255" src="/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/greenberg-600x407.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="407" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Clement Greenberg speaking in 1961.</p></div>
<p>In 1983, art historian <a href="http://www.dictionaryofarthistorians.org/clarkt.htm" target="_blank">T.J. Clark</a> delivered his paper, “More on the Differences Between <em>Comrade Greenberg</em> and Ourselves” at the Vancouver conference, Modernism and Modernity. Clement Greenberg, the critic who named kitsch “the epitome of all that is spurious” and had a Pollock hanging in his bathroom, was in the audience. I do not know if Greenberg participated in the Q&amp;A, or spoke up for himself at all when Clark finished speaking. Certainly, he was not sitting center stage as <a href="http://www.columbia.edu/cu/arthistory/faculty/Krauss.html" target="_blank">Rosalind Krauss </a>was yesterday in the L.A. Convention Center, when <a href="http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/author/default.asp?aid=1382" target="_blank">Benjamin Buchloh</a> delivered his paper, “More on the Differences between Comrade Krauss and Ourselves.”</p>
<p>Annually, the <a href="http://conference.collegeart.org/2012/" target="_blank">College Art Association Conference</a>, underway in L.A. right now, honors a distinguished scholar by assembling a group of other distinguished scholars to pay well-researched homage (or “femmage,” critic <a href="http://www.princeton.edu/artandarchaeology/faculty/hfoster/" target="_blank">Hal Foster </a>joked badly yesterday). Those assembled in Rosalind Krauss’s honor included, in addition to Foster and Buchloh, <a href="http://www.ias.edu/people/faculty-and-emeriti/bois" target="_blank">Yve-Alain Bois</a>, <a href="http://www.nga.gov/press/2007/cooper.shtm" target="_blank">Harry Cooper</a>, <a href="http://www.radcliffe.edu/academic/faculty_associates_lajerburcharth.aspx" target="_blank">Ewa Lajer-Burcharth</a>, and<a href="http://www.ucl.ac.uk/art-history/about_us/academic_staff/professor_briony_fer" target="_blank"> Briony Fer</a>, all famous within the &#8220;art ideas&#8221; bubble for some contribution made to art history during the time Krauss has been making hers. All have published in <a href="http://www.mitpressjournals.org/loi/octo" target="_blank"><em>October</em></a>, the now-renown art theory quarterly Krauss, along with Annette Michelson, co-founded in 1976.</p>
<div id="attachment_24254" style="width: 610px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="/2012/02/idea-people/krauss/" rel="attachment wp-att-24254"><img class="size-full wp-image-24254" src="/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Krauss.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="410" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Rosalind Krauss speaking on Bruce Nauman at the Dia Art Foundation, New York, May 23, 2002.</p></div>
<p>As makes sense for homage, most of what went was said glowed with respect and generous affection, well-deserved for the woman who more or less made art theory a field. Buchloh alone pointedly took Krauss to task. And this, according to him, is something he’s done quite regularly since they met in the 1970s.</p>
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<p>Buchloh encountered Krauss first when still an adjunct in Germany. He read her writing &#8212; I forgot which essay, but, given the timeline, it likely had to do with Modern sculpture and, quite possibly, with the work of David Smith &#8212; and had been bowled over by its critical clarity. This is after all, the woman who wrote, “Everything that has been said up to this point boils down to this: in language there are only differences” and who has appeared in every art theory textbook I have ever owned, sometimes talking about Mondrian, sometimes about Mike Kelley. She is and has always been agile, and Buchloh knew immediately he wanted to traffic in a world where someone like her could air such precisely articulated ideas.</p>
<p>Buchloh met Krauss in person some time later, probably still in the 1970s, at a conference in Canada where, to his surprise, he realized Greenberg, at least in the eyes of North American scholars, was not a provincial figure as he had previously imagined. He amended his critical canon accordingly, and went about becoming friends with the women helming art theory&#8217;s new, more academic wave, though they&#8217;ve been friends constantly at odds with each others&#8217; ideas.</p>
<p>The main thing that still irks Buchloh about Krauss has to do with her continuous side-stepping of conceptualism. He noted the absence of conceptual art from <em>Passages in Modern Sculpture</em>, Krauss’ first book, and its absence when she embraced post-structural linguistics at the end of the 1980s. Why, in particular, had Krauss never written about Lawrence Weiner (a favorite of Buchloh’s)? “I can only repeat what my colleagues have pointed to,” said Krauss (I&#8217;m paraphrasing), when she had a chance to respond, “and point to my interest in the visual.” Conceptualism has just never been her thing.</p>
<div id="attachment_24256" style="width: 609px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="/2012/02/idea-people/buchloh/" rel="attachment wp-att-24256"><img class=" wp-image-24256" src="/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Buchloh.jpg" alt="" width="599" height="420" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Benjamin Buchloh teaching at Harvard.</p></div>
<p>The second criticism Buchloh leveled felt more powerful. He, like all his colleagues, loved Krauss for her stylistics, her mastery of language and her ability to sound official, assertive, incontrovertible when talking about practically anything: modern sculpture, assemblage, 19<sup>th</sup> century painting. “The precision of her thinking,” Buchloh said, anticipated Krauss’ wrath, borders “on the tautological.” Her writing, like that of many of their other peers, “Does not even attempt to get its hands dirty.”</p>
<p>Why wouldn’t Krauss let her criticality choke her up sometimes, to think thoroughly through an issue but do it less than cogently, so as to risk unanticipated discoveries and/or blunders? Bruce Hainley, a SoCal art writer who has not written for <em>October</em> but knows its content well, recently published an essay in the form of a letter, “<a href="http://www.bard.edu/ccs/redhook/to-whom-it-may-concern/" target="_blank">To Whom it May Concern</a>,” in Bard&#8217;s Journal of Curatorial Studies. His advice for critics pushes even further than I imagine Buchloh’s would:</p>
<blockquote><p> I was actually going to quote Gertrude Stein (“Act so there is no use in a center.”) and then suggest that you doubt, if not exactly everything, then at least all the things in the grammar toolbox, all the blossoms in the writerly garden: mess with syntax; fuck with form (recognizing the genre you’re engaged in); piss off your (metaphorical) parents (few now helming <em>October </em>or the Whitney ISP ever have); ride the proverbial jocks of writers worth the bother (so as to organize some fresh rendezvous of questions and question marks).</p></blockquote>
<p>The problem, of course, remains how to be centerless and self-conscious and subversive and do it well. Not to undermine Krauss&#8217; achievements in the least, but it&#8217;s easier to be successfully tautological than successfully fucked up.</p>
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		<title>Yes, but: Rebellion after Guston and Clemenza</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 07:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Tosiello]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rise of Rebellion: DailyServing’s latest week-long series As we continue our week long series Rise of Rebellion, we take a look at the cyclical nature of conflict and growth through the work of Philip Guston and the wisdom of Peter Clemenza in our latest article by Andrew Tosiello. To be perfectly honest, I’m probably the last person who should be writing about rebellion. Not only[.....]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Rise of Rebellion</strong>:<strong> DailyServing’s latest  week-long series</strong></p>
<p>As we continue our week long series <a href="/tag/rise-of-rebellion/" target="_blank">Rise of Rebellion</a>, we take a look at the cyclical nature of conflict and growth through the work of Philip Guston and the wisdom of Peter Clemenza in our latest article by Andrew Tosiello.</p>
<div id="attachment_8654" style="width: 610px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img class="size-full wp-image-8654" title="1.guston" src="/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/1.guston.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="547" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Philip Guston. &quot;Oasis&quot;, 1957. Oil on Canvas. 61.5 x 68 in. </p></div>
<p>To be perfectly honest, I’m probably the last person who should be writing about rebellion. Not only am I beginning to comfortably occupy a full-time job and its attendant material security, but it has been a long time (if ever) since I’ve really stuck it to the man. More importantly and the main reason that this essay begins as quasi-apology (to the reader and the editors) is that, truth be told, I’m not fully convinced by rebellion as an effective strategy for wholesale change. (Sorry Daily Serving. I hope this won’t negatively impact future writing opportunities!)</p>
<p>It’s not that I don’t <em>want</em> to believe in rebellion, believe me. I do. In my heart I long for uprising and the final, decisive casting off of oppression after intense struggle —I’m a romantic. Unfortunately, that desire just doesn’t seem to be sustainable when I really consider it.</p>
<p>Rebellion, to me, suggests a fight against an existing system with the goal of toppling it and replacing it for good. It’s a dialectical process with teleological implications. Revolutions aren’t aiming for half-measures, they’re not seeking compromises and they certainly don’t anticipate their own downfall at the hands of future insurgents. Rebellion&#8217;s appeal lies in its <em>all-in</em> quality. It provides a sense of security about one’s (hell, the world’s) destiny being within one’s power and that it will be that way forever.</p>
<p>I want to make it clear that I don’t think that standing up for what’s right isn’t necessary or justified. It is. I do want to draw a distinction, though between protest and rebellion. In many ways, they’re similar, but they’re not the same. Where protest seeks to modify a system, rebellion seeks to overthrow one; consign it to the dustbin of history. Protest stands a chance of working (and has worked) and of producing lasting change. Rebellion, well, you know where I stand.</p>
<div id="attachment_8652" style="width: 610px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img class="size-full wp-image-8652" title="4.guton" src="/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/4.guton_.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="540" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Philip Guston. &quot;Daydreams&quot;, 1970. Oil on Linen. 180.0 x 203.5 cm </p></div>
<p>In 1970, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Guston" target="_blank">Philip Guston</a> debuted his now famous figurative paintings at the <a href="http://www.marlboroughgallery.com/" target="_blank">Marlborough Gallery</a>. It was a shocking turn from <em>pure</em> abstraction by one of its most respected practitioners. It was enough of a rebellion for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilton_Kramer" target="_blank">Hilton Kramer</a> to title his review of the show “A Mandarin Pretending To Be A Stumblebum,” and for Marlborough to drop him from its roster. Yet, Guston described the change in his work as resulting from a sense of moral duty to directly engage with the world and its politics.</p>
<p>It would be foolish to try and cast Guston in the role of a revolutionary leader striking a blow for figuration and then to discredit him by pointing to the failure of Neo-Expressionism as a lasting <em>movement</em>. Guston’s rebellion was purely a personal one, it would seem and he can’t be blamed for those he inspired. Of course, this myth of the rebel Guston can be deflated when the fact that those late paintings were a return to his earliest themes and had developed out of his experience making his <em>lyrical abstractions</em>. Additionally, his late paintings did not render hollow his previous work, but rather strengthened it by suggesting the existence of those same themes, only submerged or sublimated in paint. Guston was not a rebel, but someone committed to growth, no matter what the cost. This growth, of course, was achieved only through struggle, but not one which was aimed at toppling or overthrowing, but building and enriching.</p>
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<p>This is one view of a productive, if not rebellious, engagement with struggle against established modes.<em> </em>As the two sons of Vito Corleone plan the first salvo in an inevitable mob war in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Puzo" target="_blank">Mario Puzo</a>’s <em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Godfather" target="_blank">The Godfather</a>,</em> the fat <em>caporegime </em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Clemenza" target="_blank">Peter Clemenza</a> tells them, “These things have to happen once every ten years or so. It gets rid of the bad blood.” This sentiment not only proves Clemenza’s veteran status, having endured previous conflagrations, but presents an anti-romantic view of such struggles, assigning them no more purpose than to relieve building tensions. It is an odd sentiment in a book that valorizes violence and decisive action as means to achieving one’s destiny.</p>
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<p>Clemenza’s comment demonstrates an understanding of this war not as a part of a teleological process, leading to a final, lasting resolution, but an unending, though productive, cycle of strife and peace. In contrast to the sons who see war as fated and fraught with unalterable consequence, Clemenza views it as an almost neutral occurrence with little lasting effect.</p>
<p>Rather than seeing art through the eyes of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_Greenberg" target="_blank">Clement Greenberg</a> who saw a history of rebellions leading to a final purity, one can imagine a series of struggles which purge bad blood, produce new alliances, allow for new ideas and subtle change. It seems to be both realistic and hopeful, but it isn’t rebellion.</p>
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