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		<title>Letter from the Executive Director: Living the Art World We Make</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since I took on the role of Executive Director of Daily Serving and Art Practical, working with an administrative staff of four fierce, intersectional, women-identified cultural producers, I have been asked to think and rethink what it means to work. Whom do we work for? What is our work, and most importantly, what world does it create? In the past month, I have witnessed the[.....]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I took on the role of Executive Director of <em>Daily Serving</em> and <em>Art Practical</em>, working with an administrative staff of four fierce, intersectional, women-identified cultural producers, I have been asked to think and rethink what it means to work. Whom do we work for? What is our work, and most importantly, what world does it create?</p>
<div id="attachment_53491" style="width: 610px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/ArtHACK.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-53491" src="/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/ArtHACK.jpg" alt="Christopher Paul Jordan and Jaleesa Trapp. Art Hack Seattle project, 2016; installation view, Velocity:V2. Courtesy of the Artists." width="600" height="800" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Christopher Paul Jordan and Jaleesa Trapp. <i>Art Hack Seattle</i> project, 2016; installation view, Velocity:V2, Seattle, WA. Courtesy of the Artists.</p></div>
<p>In the past month, I have witnessed the erasure of Black and Brown bodies in acceleration, actively vanishing within the walls of art institutions and in the streets of our cities—at times, because of misguided good intentions, and at others, with a terrifying disregard. Whose body matters is a painful and exhausting question. On a basic level, all human life matters, but as a society, we demonstrate over and over that some lives matter more than others. When I consider the art world of the past three weeks, I see the world in which it is made mirrored back. And I am afraid.</p>
<p>In Seattle, the collaborative work of Christopher Paul Jordan and Jaleesa Trapp was de-installed and ultimately removed without the artists’ consent, guidance, or warning. The <a href="http://www.thestranger.com/slog/2016/09/23/24577546/how-to-create-a-situation-in-the-seattle-art-community-thats-the-last-thing-the-world-needs-this-week" target="_blank">administrative chaos</a> surrounding <em>Art Hack Day: Erasure</em> was its inevitable undoing. In an exhibition on the theme of erasure, Jordan and Trapp were the only two Black artists out of forty, and ironically, their work—a vigil that included images of loved ones contributed from a cross-section of their community—was literally erased.</p>
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<p>At the Contemporary Art Museum St. Louis, artist Kelley Walker and curator Jeffrey Uslip—both white men—dismissed a frustrated audience when questioned about Walker’s use of the Black body in his work or <a href="/2016/10/hashtags-toward-the-black-museum/" target="_blank">the role of CAM in creating more problems</a>. The resulting public outcry, calling for a boycott and the dismissal of museum staff, should not be of surprise when considering that only two years ago, Michael Brown was killed nearby in Ferguson, or that St. Louis has been the battleground of the fight for Black lives and the struggle against police brutality. Paula Cooper Gallery, which represents Walker, issued a statement, noting, “The role of the artist, it has been said, is to ask questions, not answer them.” Perhaps this is true, but shouldn’t artists be expected to pose questions with a responsible criticality and a basic care for the lives they have borrowed for their work? Images became weapons, and the institution’s (I include Walker, here) flagrant disregard for the community’s grief reinforced neoliberal and institutional racism, even if this was not the intention.</p>
<p>In San Francisco, at the Wattis Institute for Contemporary Art, David Hammons’s voice spoke from an audio recording of a talk he did in 1994. Physically absent, Hammons’s body was replaced by French curator Philippe Vergne, who facilitated the night in his stead. An event that was intended to honor Hammons and affectionately acknowledge his disinterest in public talks effectively erased him. Considered within the context of today’s sociopolitical climate, Vergne became a startling indexical gesture toward the current practice of erasing the Black body.</p>
<p>Earlier this year, in the largely Latino working-class neighborhood of Boyle Heights in Los Angeles, the nonprofit, artist-run organization PSSST came under <a href="http://hyperallergic.com/303054/in-la-fear-of-gentrification-greets-new-nonprofit-art-space/" target="_blank">significant public scrutiny</a> despite, and in spite, of an inclusive mission and early programming. Good intentions aside, PSSST placed its newly remodeled 5,000-square-foot space directly in the middle of a long-running complex struggle around Los Angeles’s ongoing gentrification, displacement of communities of color, and histories of socioeconomic violence. In this case, PSSST and similar galleries are agents of gentrification, even if they are also an emerging artist-run or nonprofit arts organization with a scrappy budget and legitimately inclusive programming. Similar to Walker, PSSST failed to consider earlier on that their actions would not be read within the isolation of their own intentions, practice, or even the art world, but against an ongoing history of state-sanctioned violence, discrimination, and disenfranchisement—because these are the stakes.</p>
<p>And in this lies the challenge. The situations I have discussed occurred within nonprofits, fiscally sponsored, or artist-run spaces, organizations, and entities, likely fueled by a staff and volunteer labor force that works to the bone for far less money than they should earn or deserve, if they are paid at all—fighting for pennies with earnestness and a belief that one day, the struggle will be operationalized. Art. Change. These describe <em>Daily Serving</em> and <em>Art Practical</em>, and so many other arts organizations that struggle to survive in the face of engorged capitalism. This is the lived experience of being in the arts. It is our burden to bear. The stakes are greater than the next artwork or exhibition. Just because we are scraping by or believe we are doing the right work doesn’t mean we are exempt or off the hook from daring to recognize the art world is intimately tied to the world from which it is made. In fact, it is quite the opposite.</p>
<p>I know this because in the past weeks, I have also seen the tears of my students, soaking with the disbelief that in fifty-four years, only 18 percent of <em>Artforum</em> covers have ever featured a woman, let alone artists of color. Or that the majority of major museum exhibitions, gallery representation, awards, executive directorships, and tenured teaching jobs are still reserved for white men, and then white women, unless they are designated for culturally specific individuals and largely at culturally specific institutions. People of color are constantly asked to make impossible decisions in support of a society that systemically disregards their safety, care, and advancement.</p>
<p>I fear this world. I choke for air when thinking—knowing—that my work happens in the very spaces where a young artist might come to class feeling that the safety of their work—and therefore their body—is not valued in this art world. Or that their body—and therefore, their work—is not valued in our everyday world. I have learned, heartbreakingly from my students, that to be an artist of color is to be a maker at risk. How do I teach this safety?</p>
<p>Here at<em> Daily Serving</em> and <em>Art Practical</em>, we have spent much time reflecting on what world we are making. We are pleased with what we have built, but nevertheless, we are gravely reflexive about how we, reluctantly, serve as agents for the institution and how we can do better. The heightened visibility around the lives of queer, Black, and Brown bodies has real-world effects (since I began writing this essay, Uslip resigned his position at CAM because of the public backlash), but this does not mean that power has effectively shifted. That is the long, grueling work of real social justice: building access to power, or redefining it with the knowledge that you might have to give up yours. We know we have a responsibility to continue this endless fight to work harder at creating an art world that reflects the world we want to live in—a space where no one fears that their safety or their work is at risk. Privilege regarding identities, institutional mobility, and access to funding need to be constantly interrogated. We should be held at a higher standard, even if we feel as though we are playing for the right team, doing “the work,” fighting for the same tiny pool of funding, and living the grueling life of nonprofit cultural workers within a for-profit world. Instead of asking questions, perhaps it’s time for the art world to start showing up with some answers. We can do better. So can you.</p>
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		<title>Summer Session – Art &amp; Vexation: Interview with William Powhida</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2016 07:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For this Summer Session we’re thinking about celebrity, and that also means thinking about what it means to both loathe and desire its effects for oneself. There is no denying that the art world is often driven by the forces of celebrity, and William Powhida makes the core of his practice a thorough critique of this system. His work responds to the ambivalent desire for status[.....]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>For this Summer Session we<i>’</i>re thinking about celebrity, and that also means thinking about what it means to both loathe and desire its effects for oneself. There is no denying that the art world is often driven by the forces of celebrity, and William Powhida makes the core of his practice a thorough critique of this system. His work responds to the ambivalent desire for status within an art market where status itself simultaneously legitimizes and undermines critical art. This interview by Bean Gilsdorf was originally published November 7, 2012.</em></p>
<div id="attachment_31859" style="width: 610px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Powhida_CynicalAdvice_2012.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-31859" src="/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Powhida_CynicalAdvice_2012.jpg" alt="William Powhida, Cynical Advice, 2012. Graphite, colored pencil, and watercolor on paper, Cynical Advice, 15” x 20”, Graphite, colored pencil, and watercolor on paper, 15 x 20 inches" width="600" height="791" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">William Powhida, <em>Cynical Advice</em>, 2012; graphite, colored pencil, and watercolor on paper; 15 x 20 in.</p></div>
<p><strong>Bean Gilsdorf</strong>: How does your work start? Where do you begin?</p>
<p><strong>William Powhida</strong>: All the drawings are very specific to a theme, often something that is irking me. The hysterical voice that provides the narrative is a way to amplify things that I’m responding to. A lot of the drawings tie into a bigger narrative, and the smaller “list” drawings are more episodic, they start with some aspect of my own practice or my own engagement with the art world. They are a way to think through all of this, it’s like having a character that speaks through the work.</p>
<p><strong>BG</strong>: And how much do you script before you draw the final version? Do you have it totally written out or do you play with it as you go?</p>
<p><strong>WP</strong>: I do start with a draft, and I also play as I go. I find there’s an arc to the drawings: the drafts are a basic outline, but then as I’m drawing and spending time with each sentence, it morphs and changes from the original draft.</p>
<p><strong>BG</strong>: I’m interested in the play that you have with the voices that come out in the lists, where there’s a lot of sarcasm, on the one hand, and then there’s also optimism. The piece called <em>Less</em> is so negative—not that it’s untrue—but then <em>Hope</em> talks about collaboration and engagement…</p>
<p><strong>WP</strong>: It’s been changing over the years. The drawings have started to split, like <em>What’s Right with the Art World</em>and <em>What’s Wrong with the Art World.</em> Despite all the ranting and raving, there’s always been this vulnerable part of the voice. I meet people who are terribly optimistic about how the art world works—they’re realistic as well, they don’t deny that a lot of it is crazy—but they still see it as an amazing place to work.</p>
<p>The narrative voice in the list drawings is not objective, because I want the drawings to be the experience of being in somebody’s head and listening to them think about the art world. That also gets articulated in works like the faux magazine covers, as a vehicle to insert myself into this upper echelon of the art world and to critique it. But as the lists have developed, they’ve become a little more rooted in reality. I don’t have to invent as much because it’s actually happening to me. Now it’s a question of trying to find some balance between what I’m actually experiencing in the art world and the things I think are still worth discussing. Whether it’s an effective critique or not I don’t know, but I’m speaking these things out loud so we can talk about them.</p>
<p><a href="/2012/11/art-vexation-interview-with-william-powhida/" target="_blank">Read the full interview here.</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 08:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[William Powhida’s text-based drawings* skewer the contemporary art world with relish. From fake Rolling Stone magazine pages to charts explaining economic relationships, or trompe l’oeil pages torn from the notebook of an art-world malcontent, Powhida sticks his finger into the wounds of modern culture. For example, What Do Prices Reflect? pessimistically lists the rationale used to determine an artwork’s financial value: “Whether or not the work[.....]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><a href="http://powhida.tumblr.com/">William Powhida</a>’s text-based drawings* skewer the contemporary art world with relish. From fake </em>Rolling Stone<em> magazine pages to charts explaining economic relationships, or trompe l’oeil pages torn from the notebook of an art-world malcontent, Powhida sticks his finger into the wounds of modern culture. For example, </em><a href="http://williampowhida.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/prices_large1.jpg">What Do Prices Reflect?</a><em> pessimistically lists the rationale used to determine an artwork’s financial value: “Whether or not the work will impress your cultured friends…A highly ritualized exercise in shared delusions…The informal collusion of taste in a statistically insignificant % of the population.” By turns sad, true, and laugh-out-loud funny, his schadenfreude-inducing drawings call out the major players, poke fun at the artist as a brand, and divulge the art world’s dirty little secrets. Powhida and I talked this summer at the <a href="http://www.headlands.org/">Headlands Center for the Arts</a>, where he was a resident artist.</em></p>
<div id="attachment_31859" style="width: 610px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="/2012/11/art-vexation-interview-with-william-powhida/powhida_cynicaladvice_2012/" rel="attachment wp-att-31859"><img class="size-full wp-image-31859" src="/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Powhida_CynicalAdvice_2012.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="791" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">William Powhida. Cynical Advice, 2012; Graphite, colored pencil, and watercolor on paper, 15 x 20 in.</p></div>
<p><strong>Bean Gilsdorf</strong>: How does your work start? Where do you begin?</p>
<p><strong>William Powhida</strong>: All the drawings are very specific to a theme, often something that is irking me. The hysterical voice that provides the narrative is a way to amplify things that I’m responding to. A lot of the drawings tie into a bigger narrative, and the smaller “list” drawings are more episodic, they start with some aspect of my own practice or my own engagement with the art world. They are a way to think through all of this, it’s like having a character that speaks through the work.</p>
<p><strong>BG</strong>: And how much do you script before you draw the final version? Do you have it totally written out or do you play with it as you go?</p>
<p><strong>WP</strong>: I do start with a draft, and I also play as I go. I find there’s an arc to the drawings: the drafts are a basic outline, but then as I’m drawing and spending time with each sentence, it morphs and changes from the original draft.</p>
<p><strong>BG</strong>: I’m interested in the play that you have with the voices that come out in the lists, where there’s a lot of sarcasm, on the one hand, and then there’s also optimism. The piece called <em>Less</em> is so negative—not that it’s untrue—but then <em>Hope</em> talks about collaboration and engagement…</p>
<p><strong>WP</strong>: It’s been changing over the years. The drawings have started to split, like <em>What’s Right with the Art World</em> and <em>What’s Wrong with the Art World.</em> Despite all the ranting and raving, there’s always been this vulnerable part of the voice. I meet people who are terribly optimistic about how the art world works—they’re realistic as well, they don’t deny that a lot of it is crazy—but they still see it as an amazing place to work.</p>
<p>The narrative voice in the list drawings is not objective, because I want the drawings to be the experience of being in somebody’s head and listening to them think about the art world. That also gets articulated in works like the faux magazine covers, as a vehicle to insert myself into this upper echelon of the art world and to critique it. But as the lists have developed, they’ve become a little more rooted in reality. I don’t have to invent as much because it’s actually happening to me. Now it’s a question of trying to find some balance between what I’m actually experiencing in the art world and the things I think are still worth discussing. Whether it’s an effective critique or not I don’t know, but I’m speaking these things out loud so we can talk about them.</p>
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<div id="attachment_31864" style="width: 610px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="/2012/11/art-vexation-interview-with-william-powhida/powhida_oligopoly_2011/" rel="attachment wp-att-31864"><img class="size-full wp-image-31864" src="/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Powhida_Oligopoly_2011.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="818" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">William Powhida. Oligopoly (Revised), 2011; Watercolor, acrylic ink, and colored pencil on panel</p></div>
<p><strong>BG</strong>: Do you ever second-guess yourself? Do you ever think, &#8220;Oh, I shouldn’t write that?&#8221; Have you ever censored yourself?</p>
<p><strong>WP</strong>: I haven’t censored myself in terms of any particular drawings but I feel, now, much more sensitive to thinking about the political impact of calling somebody out, and in particular, anybody who is just trying to come up in the art world, even though it’s the same process that I’ve been commenting on the whole time. Because I don’t want it to appear like sour grapes, that’s why it’s aimed at the upper echelon of the art world. I don’t think it’s fair to satirize somebody’s career ascent…I guess that’s a form of censorship. But I do wonder about all the people that I have called out, [laughing] if I’m not on the list for some shows because I’ve offended somebody…</p>
<p><strong>BG</strong>: Do you meet the people that you’ve drawn?</p>
<p><strong>WP</strong>: On occasion. Jules de Balincourt lives in Bushwick, and we’ve had a number of conversations.  I’ve never met anyone who is straight up hostile. It’s sort of like everyone’s on the clock in their professional roles, and when we’re done, we can hang out&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>BG</strong>: Like politicians.</p>
<p><strong>WP</strong>: Yeah, and when we’re off the clock, there’s a different kind of dialog, usually they understand that it’s framed as art, it’s a kind of fiction or satire, and it’s not a personal thing. It’s rooted in the perception of power structures and the roles that people play. Christian Viveros-Faune is someone that I’ve poked fun at but he completely understands where it comes from and he’s still a supporter of the work. He’s like, <em>I get it</em>.</p>
<div id="attachment_31863" style="width: 610px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="/2012/11/art-vexation-interview-with-william-powhida/powhida_less_2011/" rel="attachment wp-att-31863"><img class="size-full wp-image-31863" src="/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Powhida_Less_2011.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="885" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">William Powhida. Less, 2011; Graphite and watercolor on paper, 11 x 14 in.</p></div>
<p><strong>BG</strong>: And, to a certain extent, isn’t it still flattering in a way?—in an &#8220;any press is good press&#8221; kind of way? People who are in power get a lot of attention, and any attention that they do get reinforces that power structure.</p>
<p><strong>WP</strong>: Yes, it can, that’s the downside of it, just saying or evoking the name. That’s why I did the <a href="http://williampowhida.com/wordpress/portfolio/ars-magica"><em>Ars Magica</em> suite</a>, the art world through the lens of ritual or black magic, just naming the name is giving it power. But I’ve always hoped that it wasn’t <em>only</em> a reaffirmation of their power, that there was some sort of critique in it that might be useful. The thing about recognition is that it’s necessary for an artist, too. You’ll see thirty or forty shows in Williamsburg but only a handful will get reviewed, so there’s this process of omission as a critical model. Recognition is a big, needy area that can occupy an artist’s life. I thought there might be something interesting in naming things instead of omitting them, but I’m not trying to reify anyone’s position.</p>
<p><strong>BG</strong>: You’re talking about the social, emotional, and economic structures of the art world, and those are complicated, so to have that kind of complexity and clash in the work just mirrors what’s already there.</p>
<p><strong>WP</strong>: And also you can hold up a mirror to art world, you can show people this perfect mirror, and they don’t necessarily care. That world has so much power, you know? People can know the things that are wrong in the art world, or that could be changed in a way that it would make it a more interesting place, and it doesn’t matter. There’s a line in one of the drawings, I think it’s, &#8220;There’s a difference between knowing shit and making people care about it.&#8221; That’s one of the important things about the drawings, they can capture some part of the emotional experience of being an artist.</p>
<div id="attachment_31867" style="width: 610px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="/2012/11/art-vexation-interview-with-william-powhida/powhida_hope_2011/" rel="attachment wp-att-31867"><img class="size-full wp-image-31867" src="/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Powhida_Hope_2011.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="870" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">William Powhida. Hope, 2011; Graphite and watercolor on paper, 11 x 14 in.</p></div>
<p><strong>BG</strong>: But you’ve also worked with groups who do care.</p>
<p><strong>WP</strong>: Yes, after the show last October I spent a couple of months going to Arts &amp; Labor meetings through <a href="http://occupywallst.org/">Occupy Wall Street</a> and it was just an incredibly different experience of a kind of critique that’s beginning at the base, that has nothing to do with the existing art world. It’s super challenging, because most of the artists that I know are like, “I don’t know how to engage with that. I’ve done a lot of work to get to this place and although I’m not making any real money, I’m in this system and I can’t just step outside of it and completely demolish it and not consider that I work with an art dealer who’s trying to make a living.”</p>
<p>And we’re not talking about the star system, we’re talking about the middle class of the art world. And now I’m in this place where there is something to lose—a position of recognition, or at least an audience—and it’s hard to step completely outside of that, but there’s still a lot to critique. It’s easy to make a very principled critique when you’re on the outside, but it’s more difficult to do within it. That’s where I have to deal with and embrace all of the contradictions, and talk about them so they’re out there for people to consider.</p>
<p><strong>BG</strong>: I once read a great line: “The way to deal with a troublesome outsider is to bring him into the fold.”</p>
<p><strong>WP</strong>: Well, that’s also part of the critique of my practice, is that if it’s absorbed into the system or made safe then it loses all power. There’s the assertion that if you’re inside the system then the critique has no power, you’re just a pressure-release valve that lets the steam out. But that’s as dismissive as saying, we’ve bought your work, it’s safe, we’ve allowed you in. I’ve been very conscious about trying to resist certain opportunities that are presented and doing things that subvert those expectations…</p>
<p><strong>BG</strong>: And what happens when you <em>do </em>get invited to the Miami Basel VIP parties?</p>
<p><strong>WP</strong>: I’m sure I would find the experience kind of deflating. Part of the attraction of that kind of thing is in maintaining the illusion that it’s fun, like, “Look at this fabulous universe that we exist in!” And you get there and it’s just a bunch of boring financial people there who don’t know that much about art, and really well educated people who don’t have as much power as the people who have the cash. I’m hopeful that if I’m invited to do something like a survey show that I would still be able to reflect on the process of it, and the institutional apparatus, and how it feels, and layer that into the narrative so that the work responds to its environment.</p>
<p>*Note: larger images of the works that appear in this interview are available at http://powhida.tumblr.com/</p>
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